Post by Brian on Jun 29, 2013 14:13:23 GMT -5
01/04/08 at 07:17 AM
Maria
CLOSURE. This word has been used to describe that certain "something" that so many people (including myself) have hoped to experience and achieve concerning the Christmas Day murders of the Lawson family. I am no longer certain that such a thing is within reach or will ever happen. A small amount of it, possibly. But complete closure? I no longer think so. While watching the movie QUEEN last night at a friend's house I was astonished to find myself crying like a baby over the death of Princess Diana in this movie. After all I reminded myself, her death occurred almost 8 years ago. Yet there I sat crying as hard last night as I cried in 1999 when she was killed. It felt like a huge gaping hole in my soul. And as I sat there crying I suddenly recalled the tears of Dorothy Watts Montgomery 77 years after the murder and death of her dear friend Marie Lawson as she relived Marie's death that day so many years before. And I realized that for Dorothy as with so many others who knew the Lawson's that complete closure had never come to them. Dorothy's tears still came readily, Raleigh Montgomery's hands still shook and fear was clearly revealed in his eyes. Ruby Savage's voice still shook, Oakley Manring's emotions are still raw, and some of the relatives who have since died were never able to discuss the deaths of their loved ones. After 78 years, closure for them has never arrived. There are just some things that are so painful that we can never forget. We can never completely heal from some things. We can learn to live with it, we can go on with our lives, but we can never forget. For me the wounds inflicted from the death of Princess Diana and the murders of the Lawsons will forever remain un-closured (no such word I know).
Maria
01/04/08 at 10:39 AM
Angel71242
There never can be closure for anyone associated with the Lawson tragedy. There are just too many things that are unknown and will never be known.
Angel71242
01/04/08 at 11:59 AM
Angel71242
Although I must add, Maria, you sure have uncovered a lot of unknowns that I'm sure everyone thought would always be unknown!!
Angel71242
01/04/08 at 12:06 PM
Maria
That we have Angel. Actually the unknown parts aren't why there is no complete closure (emotionally) for me and the others closer to it than I am, but rather what is known. That's where the wounds sink deep. You have helped me close some of the unknowns too you know!!
Maria
01/04/08 at 03:47 PM
sissy
Something this tragic will never be forgotten. There will always be some kind of emotional scars from it. But Angel is right, thanks to you Maria, we have found the answers to a lot of questions.
sissy
01/06/08 at 02:55 PM
Michael818
Such historic events rarely do ever see closure for everyone. There are those who still mourn President Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe too. And, despite the fact that the last remains seem to have been found, people like me will always remember the family of Nicholas II of Russia. The Soviets once declared, "The world shall never know what we have done with them." Well, the world now knows, but so many of us still wish to see that lost Atlantis, that through pictures and stories, it is coming back to us.
The same with the Lawsons. The more we learn, the more three dimensional and real they become to us. Wouldn't it be spectacular if we could uncover some old letters or schoolwork from them? It would almost be like conversing with the past!
Michael R.
Michael818
01/06/08 at 08:06 PM
Maria
I have heard of so many married couples whose marriage was solid and they were mature well adjusted couples, UNTIL they lost a child to death. Then their marriage fell apart. At a time when they needed each other the most, the death of their child threw them into such turmoil that they grew apart instead of closer together until they found themselves divorced. Some things are so painful, the death of a child being one, that your soul becomes so sore you can never be whole again. I think that happened to Arthur. He managed to go through the motions of living, but from all I've heard he was never to be whole again.
Maria
01/07/08 at 12:45 PM
Angel71242
I like that description. His soul became too sore to ever be whole again. So sad
Angel71242
01/07/08 at 03:25 PM
Michael818
I think Arthur's soul was broken. Maybe even partly gone home already, the way people describe his actions.
Michael R.
Michael818
Maria
CLOSURE. This word has been used to describe that certain "something" that so many people (including myself) have hoped to experience and achieve concerning the Christmas Day murders of the Lawson family. I am no longer certain that such a thing is within reach or will ever happen. A small amount of it, possibly. But complete closure? I no longer think so. While watching the movie QUEEN last night at a friend's house I was astonished to find myself crying like a baby over the death of Princess Diana in this movie. After all I reminded myself, her death occurred almost 8 years ago. Yet there I sat crying as hard last night as I cried in 1999 when she was killed. It felt like a huge gaping hole in my soul. And as I sat there crying I suddenly recalled the tears of Dorothy Watts Montgomery 77 years after the murder and death of her dear friend Marie Lawson as she relived Marie's death that day so many years before. And I realized that for Dorothy as with so many others who knew the Lawson's that complete closure had never come to them. Dorothy's tears still came readily, Raleigh Montgomery's hands still shook and fear was clearly revealed in his eyes. Ruby Savage's voice still shook, Oakley Manring's emotions are still raw, and some of the relatives who have since died were never able to discuss the deaths of their loved ones. After 78 years, closure for them has never arrived. There are just some things that are so painful that we can never forget. We can never completely heal from some things. We can learn to live with it, we can go on with our lives, but we can never forget. For me the wounds inflicted from the death of Princess Diana and the murders of the Lawsons will forever remain un-closured (no such word I know).
Maria
01/04/08 at 10:39 AM
Angel71242
There never can be closure for anyone associated with the Lawson tragedy. There are just too many things that are unknown and will never be known.
Angel71242
01/04/08 at 11:59 AM
Angel71242
Although I must add, Maria, you sure have uncovered a lot of unknowns that I'm sure everyone thought would always be unknown!!
Angel71242
01/04/08 at 12:06 PM
Maria
That we have Angel. Actually the unknown parts aren't why there is no complete closure (emotionally) for me and the others closer to it than I am, but rather what is known. That's where the wounds sink deep. You have helped me close some of the unknowns too you know!!
Maria
01/04/08 at 03:47 PM
sissy
Something this tragic will never be forgotten. There will always be some kind of emotional scars from it. But Angel is right, thanks to you Maria, we have found the answers to a lot of questions.
sissy
01/06/08 at 02:55 PM
Michael818
Such historic events rarely do ever see closure for everyone. There are those who still mourn President Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe too. And, despite the fact that the last remains seem to have been found, people like me will always remember the family of Nicholas II of Russia. The Soviets once declared, "The world shall never know what we have done with them." Well, the world now knows, but so many of us still wish to see that lost Atlantis, that through pictures and stories, it is coming back to us.
The same with the Lawsons. The more we learn, the more three dimensional and real they become to us. Wouldn't it be spectacular if we could uncover some old letters or schoolwork from them? It would almost be like conversing with the past!
Michael R.
Michael818
01/06/08 at 08:06 PM
Maria
I have heard of so many married couples whose marriage was solid and they were mature well adjusted couples, UNTIL they lost a child to death. Then their marriage fell apart. At a time when they needed each other the most, the death of their child threw them into such turmoil that they grew apart instead of closer together until they found themselves divorced. Some things are so painful, the death of a child being one, that your soul becomes so sore you can never be whole again. I think that happened to Arthur. He managed to go through the motions of living, but from all I've heard he was never to be whole again.
Maria
01/07/08 at 12:45 PM
Angel71242
I like that description. His soul became too sore to ever be whole again. So sad
Angel71242
01/07/08 at 03:25 PM
Michael818
I think Arthur's soul was broken. Maybe even partly gone home already, the way people describe his actions.
Michael R.
Michael818