Post by Brian on Jul 15, 2010 9:06:40 GMT -5
08/21/07 at 02:55 PM
Michael818
Hello! Thanks for the interest and responses to my Lydia posting. Just to let everyone know, the Lydia Jane McCarthy who died 12-31-1923 (Haunted NC link) is NOT our Lydia of the Underpass. This woman's death certificate, according to the HP library's NC Room, shows clearly that she was NOT born in 1904, as she was 76 when she died. Also, records of the time do not say things like' as a result of injuries sustained in a motoring or automobile accident. They actually describe the injuries, or cause of death.
I have been hearing hints of a "Dalton House" that once stood near King. Anyone know anything about that? Know anything about the Rock House? Any other Stokes, Forsyth, Surry, or Yadkin tales?
Thanks! The second book is in final work before going to the publisher, and the third, encompassing the whole South, is now under way.
Regards!
Michael818
08/21/07 at 04;20 PM
ecalhoun
Quote:
Captain John Martin's rock house in Stokes County was built about 1785 I was there back last May took pics
and each pic there was a fog like matter next to each door entrance there was no fog that day the same
film i took other pics at other places that day no fog like spot in them just at rock house anybody think i
might have ghost pics or just bad film.
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Michael - Here was a mention of the rock house from back in January. It is quite the architectural oddity in the area, and I'm sure it does have some tales floating around about it.
I'd love to hear more about Capt. Martin and why he built such a house, I haven't heard. I know at least a bit of it is covered in one of Chad Tucker's books on Stokes County.
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ecalhoun
08/21/07 at 04:33 PM
Angel71242
I've read about this place, but have not visited it yet. I know one thing - for me - it was very hard to find directions. I finally had to email the King Chamber of Commerce and they emailed the way. I can't wait to go check it out!
Angel71242
08/21/07 at 05:33 PM
sissy
Your new books sound really interesting Michael, good luck with them.
sissy
08/25/07 at 03:46 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael818
I have been hearing hints of a "Dalton House" that once stood near King.
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The Dalton Hunt house is in Yadkin County!
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03/25/07 at 04:07 PM
LuvMyDog
Hi HillBilly Ghosthunter......You said the Dalton Houses were in Yadkin County...where exactly, and what if! may ask happened at these houses. I have been trying to find this out for awhile now. And I heard that the houses were in King? Thanks for any info in advance!
LuvMyDog
08/25/07 at 06:34 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvMyDog
Hi HillBilly Ghosthunter......You said the Dalton Houses were in Yadkin County...where exactly, and what if I may ask happened at these houses. I have been trying to find this out for awhile now. And I heard that the houses were in King? Thanks for any info in advance!
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It is called the DALTON_HUNT house. I is still standing but the property owner will not let anyone near it with a ten foot pole. It is located in Huntsville NC.
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08/25/07 at 06:37 PM
Maria
So is this house in Yadkinville, King, or Huntsville? Where exactly is Huntsville? Is it in Yadkin County?
Maria
D 08/25/07 at 07:07 PM
Maria
I looked it up myself. It's in Yadkin County.
Huntsville is a small unincorporated community in eastern Yadkin County. North Carolina. USA. The community was formerly chartered in 1792 by Charles Hunt of Salisbury. NC and was chartered again in 1822 (Powell 1968. p. 241). I was unable to find any mention of the Dalton_Hunt house.
Maria
08/25/07 at 08:13 PM
LuvMyDog
THANKS MARIA FOR THE INFO.......THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS INFO ON THE HUNT-DALTON HOUSE AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE? YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD DETECTIVE YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO FIND ALL THE PIECES TO THE PUZZLE. THANKS!...........
LuvMyDog
08/25/07 at 08:49 PM
Maria
I didn't find the Dalton_Hunt house. Just Huntsville. There was no mention of the house anywhere on the website. I found no mention of it anywhere I looked. But thank you for the compliment Michelle.
Maria
0 08/25/07 at 09:59 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria
I didn't find the Dalton_Hunt house. Just Huntsville. There was no mention of the house anywhere on the website. I found no mention of it anywhere I looked.
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You won't find the story on the net. It is not a well know as most other places ( but it should be)! My Dad's family is from Yadkin County.
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108/25/07 at 10:22 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvMyDog
THANKS MARIA FOR THE INFO.......THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS INFO ON THE HUNT-DALTON HOUSE AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE? YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD DETECTIVE YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO FIND ALL THE PIECES TO THE PUZZLE. THANKS!...........
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I will fill you all in....here is some history of the place.
The house was built in 1840 by Henry J Gorman. He built it on the land which was owned by his Mother In Law. She was Sarah Dalton. Henry and his wife Julia had a son named Paul who died in 1854 when he was 4 years old. Henry died shortly after. Julia could not cope and committed suicide by jumping from the 2nd floor balcony. Mrs Dalton ( Sarah) moved to Texas stating she could not live in a house that was so haunted.
There is more a man named Hunt bought the house in 1880. He was a DRI think. He was married to a lady named Molly they had a daughter named Daisy. Mr. hunt died when she was 14 and her Mom became too over protective of her. She was very beautiful. Her mother killed Daisy's lover whom she was going to run away with...there on the ground of the Dalton Hunt house. Little did Molly know but Daisy was pregnant. Molly never faced charges for murdering Daisy's lover.
Daisy had a Son his name was Jack. He had some sort of birth defect that caused him to have scaly looking skin like a fish.He was born with no oil glands. His Mother and his Grandmother locked him in the basement for many many years because he was so gruesome looking. His mother Daisy died in 1934 and his grandmother died in 1935.
Jack grew up to be a very mean man. He was accused of killing several people but it was never proven. If there is any place that is haunted this place would be good bet.
I visited this place when I was 18 years old. You could see lights floating around in the house there have been no electricity in it for years. It is very scary looking even on the day time.They say you can see a woman standing in the upstairs window...and hear howls and yells from the basement.
My brother-in-law on a dare went in and unscrewed the light bulbs in the place when he was a teenager just to make sure there was no chance of the lights coming on. They waited in their car to see if the lights would come on as they often did. He said he and his buddy were in his car and it was pitch dark...he said something started at the rear of the car and scratched like some one digging a key in to the paint they were setting still the whole time. He said they could not see nothing. They got out of there as fast as they could go. He said when they stopped there was in fact a scratch from front to rear all the way to the paint.
08/25/07 at 10:56 PM
epdj
Different stories have been told about this house
During the Revolutionary War period (1775-1783) the situation in the area that was to be Stokes County presented three distinct problems: first the British, second the Indians who had been encouraged by the British to step up their actions against the settlers, and lastly were the Tories (British Loyalists).
Squads of local militia under the command of Joseph Winston, Jack Martin, and Matthew Moore were responsible for keeping the Tories, Indians and British from this region. Visitors can visit the ruins of Revolutionary War hero Colonel Jack Martin's 3-story home, The Rock House. The site once served as mustering ground for local militias in the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.
The Stokes County region was fortunate to be left unscarred by actual battle during the Revolutionary War.
The Revolutionary War-era rock house, built by Captain John Martin, is owned by The Stokes County Historical Society. It is one of the oldest structures still standing in Stokes County. The foundation was laid in the 1770's and the house was finished in 1785. It is listed in the National Register of Historic Places.
Esther Johnson
epdj
08/26/07 at 12:08 AM
Maria
My ancestors on my Mother's side pretty much settled Yadkin County. My first ancestor to settle there was Martin Hauser who came to America aboard the ship "The Molly" in 1740. At one time there were so many of my people there that it was called Hauser Town. My great great grandfather Theophilus Christian Hauser built the first general store in Yadkinville. Another great great grandfather John Mackie built the first two story house there. My Hadley and Moffitt ancestors lived in Deep Creek. I still have some Hauser relatives living there. You would think they would know about that story but they said they had never heard it. You would think with that many murders in such a small community that at least one of those people would have been caught, tried, and convicted. I would not have wanted to live in that community with two crazed murderers running loose.
Maria
08/26/07 at 03:17 PM
Michael818
Just to clarify for EVERYONE. I was asking about a house called the Dalton House which once stood on Dalton Road in Stokes County, near King. This house is now gone.
Several people seemed to think I was talking about the Dalton-Hunt House in the Courtney-Huntsville area of Yadkin County. I know all about this house, and have dozens of pictures of it. The legends surrounding this antebellum house appear in my book ROADSIDE REVEWNANTS. My dad grew up in Lone Hickory, which is in the Courtney School District. Our family is intertwined with other families in the area, and my dad knew Jack Hunt, aka "Fishman."
I appreciate everyone who provided info on the Rock House. And I apologize that there was confusion over the other house. Honestly, I didn't even think about the Hunt House when I posted that. We in Yadkin usually refer to it as the Hunt House, not the Dalton-Hunt House.
Thanks again, everybody!
Michael R.
Michael818
08/26/07 at 03:30 PM
Maria
A great big THANK YOU Michael for clearing that up. I had a feeling that they might be two different houses since you would have known and said if it was Dalton_Hunt rather than just Dalton house as you did but since I didn't know that for certain I didn't say anything.
Maria
08/26/07 at 03:33 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael818
Just to clarify for EVERYONE.! was asking about a house called the Dalton House which once stood on Dalton Road in Stokes County, near King. This house is now gone.
Several people seemed to think I was talking about the Dalton-Hunt House in the Courtney-Huntsville area of Yadkin County. I know all about this house, and have dozens of pictures of it. The legends surrounding this antebellum house appear in my book ROADSIDE REVEWNANTS. My dad grew up in Lone Hickory, which is in the Courtney School District. Our family is intertwined with other families in the area, and my dad knew Jack Hunt, aka "Fishman."
I appreciate everyone who provided info on the Rock House. And I apologize that there was confusion over the other house. Honestly, I didn't even think about the Hunt House when I posted that. We in Yadkin usually refer to it as the Hunt House, not the Dalton-Hunt House. Thanks again, everybody!
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Sorry Michael I did not mean to confuse every one. Well maybe at least the Dalton-Hunt aka Hunt House history interested someone. I find it fascinating my self. Honestly though I have never heard of the Dalton House you refer to in King. I am sure you will be able to dig up the info on that..you seem to be good at what you do. I am a big fan that is for sure!!!
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08/26/07 at 06:45 PM
sissy
Thanks Michael for clearing all of that up
sissy
08/27/07 at 11:32 AM
Maria
Esther sent Matt these photos she took of the cemetery at Rock House where Captain Martin is buried and Matt forwarded them to me and asked me to post them.
Maria
08/27/07 at 11:39 AM
Maria
Hi Eric,
The last article on this page should answer your question as to why Captain Martin built the Rock House like he did. I found these photos of Captain John Martin's Rock House. And this is what was said about it.
The Revolutionary War era rock house. built by Captain John Martin, is owned by The Stokes County Historical Society. Is one of the oldest structures still standing in Stokes County. The foundation was laid in the 1700's and the house was finished in 1785. It is listed in the National Register of historic Places.
During the Revolutionary War period (1775-1783) the situation in the area that was to be Stokes County presented three distinct problems: first the British, second the Indians who had been encouraged by the British to step up their actions against the settlers, and lastly were the Tories (British Loyalists).
Squads of local militia under the command of Joseph Winston, Jack Martin, and Matthew Moore were responsible for keeping the Tories, Indians and British from this region. Visitors can visit the ruins of Revolutionary War hero Colonel Jack Martin's 3-story home. The Rock House. The site once served as mustering ground for local militias in the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.
The Rock House
It's called the Rock House, and even in ruins, the thing is impressive. It sits on a promontory, just above South Double Creek, which provides a good panoramic view of anyone who might be approaching; not a bad vantage point on the Stokes County frontier of the 1770's.
The walls are three feet thick, built of dry-laid native stone and rise some 25 feet or so. When the roof was still existent, it probably exceeded 30 feet in height and, since the exterior was white stucco, it shone like a beacon in the sun, visible for miles. For the scattered settlers in the area, in those days, that beacon meant safety and many times these walls sheltered them when there was trouble afoot, which, more often than not, there was.
From 1775, when the first shots were fired at the beginning of the American Revolution, until the last British troops left our soil in 1783, life on the frontier was a precarious day-to-day thing. Between the British- incited Cherokee, Americans loyal to the British Crown (aka Tories), Redcoats, and those who were self-serving and loyal to no one but themselves who, like vultures, always seem to appear to reap advantage when there was turmoil in the land, a man who had no place to shelter himself and his family was both foolish and short-lived. The Rock House filled the bill, estimably, and the fact that so much of it still stands after 230 years is a testament both to the times and to the man who built it.
His name was John Martin; in later years known as Jack, probably to distinguish himself from another John Martin who lived in the area at the time. We know he was born in Virginia in 1756 and came to that part of Rowan County (later to become Stokes) in 1758, probably in the company of his older brother, William.
Tradition says that Martin laid the foundation stones for the Rock House in 1770, when he was just 14. He may have, but more than likely it was done somewhat later, or he had help unknown to us, as written records from those days are sparse. Men and women making history don't have much time to write it.
Martin must have had money to buy the land and pay for teams of oxen and men to haul the rock, dig the basement and lay the stone, and it must have been done quickly because it was already being mentioned as a refuge from marauding Indians and Tories in 1776, even though it was apparently unfinished.
Martin, by this time a Lieutenant in the Colonial Militia, went to war against the Cherokee in the western mountains. His name crops up again and again in the years from 1776 until hostilities ceased in 1783 in the company of such men as Major Joseph Winston, Col. William Cleveland and Capt. Joseph Cloud. Martin was with Cloud's Company as a scout at the Battle of Kings Mountain when Cloud was shot off his horse and left for dead.
Martin's unfinished Rock House played its own part in the ongoing struggle for independence, as it was used as a muster ground and meeting place as well as a refuge. The old walls must have heard many a strategy session as these frontier patriots worked out tactics and plans.
Martin was at his house when the call went out from Major Winston in Germanton for men to go after a band of Tories who had broken into a patriot's house, ransacked and robbed the place and fled to their hideout in a cave on the north flank of Hanging Rock Mountain. In the ensuing firefight, all the Tories, except two were killed, and as these two approached the patriot company, one took aim at Martin and fired. But, Martin reared his horse, which took the fatal shot. As the man turned to flee, Martin fired from his position where he had fallen on the ground, killing the man. That cave, forever after know as Tories Den, is now a popular destination for hikers in Hanging Rock State Park.
With the long war finally over, Martin came back to his Rock House and finally finished it, just in time to marry the sister of one of his comrades in arms during the war years. Martin was 28 in June of 1784 when he married 22-year-old Nancy Shipp, and for the next 39 years, they lived and raised 10 children in its sheltering walls.
Martin went on to become a Stokes County magistrate and Stokes County representative in the fledgling legislature. He kept buying land and adding to his holdings, at one time owning as much as 6,000 acres, some 600 acres of which lay in the old Cherokee territory in Jackson County.
There is a tantalizing entry in the Moravian diary of one Brother Martin Schneider, where he notes in January of 1784 that he came across a Col. Jack Martin coming out of a Cherokee hot house. Schneider, who was in the Cherokee Overhill Towns to bring Christianity to the Indians, notes that Martin took him under his wing as a guide to one of the principle chiefs and wrote that Martin seemed well acquainted with the ways of the Indians.
As the years progressed, the Rock House and the Martins became known for hospitality and wealth. One writer noted that Nancy had "the finest set of china in the South," and that their furniture was built of premium woods and the best craftsmanship to be seen anywhere. Martin was apparently a man of unusual depth and education for the time. An inventory of his goods after his death noted more than 80 books, some written in Latin and Greek, ranging from law to drama and natural history.
On April 5, 1823, Martin was helping his men in fighting a grass or brush fire that became out of control near the house. Nancy came out and saw him sitting on a rock "to rest," he said. She went on to locate the other men to see if there was anything she could do, and when she came back, Martin was lying beside the rock. He was 67 years old. They buried Martin in a small graveyard near the house and Nancy was laid beside him in 1844. One of their sons, William, lies with them. Curiously, his gravestone lists his death year as 1822.
Over the years, the house had a succession of owners, each less and less committed to its upkeep. At some point in the early-l900s, the wooden portion of the house—roof interior beams, walls and the like— was lost to fire or, as another tradition says, to a man who wanted the wood for his own construction project. The massive walls stood on although one of them clearly shows the split where it was hit by lightning.
Maria
08/27/07 at 01:07 PM
Angel72142
That's freakin awesome Maria!! I scoured the internet for info on the Rock House and could find almost nothing and look at all this you found! The pics too!! I'm gonna say it again - you should be a private detective!
Angel71242
08/27/07 at 01:09 PM
Maria
Thanks Angel. It really wasn't hard!!!
Maria
08/27/07 at 04:09 PM
BobbyWayne
below the rock house is the coolest place but on private land but can be seen from the road.lots of big rocks small water falls and I heard that the KKK used to have meetings there.this is hearsay do not know this for a fact, uncle Oakley was the one that told me about the KKK ,we still went on the property and took pictures a couple of years ago,no houses are near it they had a sign up if I can find them will post pictures of the falls
BobbyWayne
08/27/07 at 04:19 PM
Maria
That's really interesting about the kKK meeting at the water falls. Such a pretty place for such evil hearts to congregate. It reminds me of this photo I took last year of the road that leads to where Charlie Lawson's house once stood and it amazed me how pretty and peaceful the road to where they lived is compared to the horrible evil that took place there all those years ago. Of course this road didn't look like this back then and Charlie Lawson's house is no longer there but it still leads to the same place and is in close proximity to where so much horror occurred. I took this photo on the Squire Inn property where the front of Squire Inn's B&B faces this road. Squires Inn was where Ruby Savage lived with her parents when her best friend Marie was killed. It was called the Wagoner House back then.
Maria
08/27/07 at 05:31 PM
LD
Once again, Maria, you've got answers to questions I haven't thought of yet. I wonder how I could get directions to this house. Love the pics.
LD
08/27/07 at 05:33 PM
Maria
Angel has the directions I think. I'll call her tomorrow and get them for you if no one else posts them before that.
Maria
08/27/07 at 05:44 PM
Maria
Bobby Wayne took these photos of the beautiful water falls near the Rock House and asked me to post them. You look really good in these photos Bobby.
Maria
08/27/07 at 07:43 PM
BobbyWayne
Thanks Marie
But I look Good all the time HaHaHa just kidding
Thanks for posting the pictures for me
Charlie's House was closer to Hampton Road than Squires Inn
Arthur's House may have been dose to Squires Inn, I never Knew where he lived
BobbyWayne
08/27/07 at 09:00 PM
Maria
Sadie Hampton, Hillary Hampton's wife lives in the house Arthur built. They added onto it, a kitchen I think. Sadie is 98 years old. She and Hillary were Charlie and Fannie's best friends. And yes, you always look good Bobby. For real.
Maria
08/28/07 at 08:24 AM
sissy
Bobby Wayne good to hear from you. I love those pictures, they are really pretty.
sissy
08/28/07 at 08:45 AM
Angel71242
Those pictures are really beautiful! I love nature - it can be so breathtaking sometimes!
Angel71242
08/28/07 at 12:30 PM
Angel71242
Directions to Rock House (from Stokes County Economic Development)
From Winston-Salem
1) 52 North to Exit 129 (Pinnacle) - at end of ramp turn Right
2) Continue to intersection with Old US Highway 52 and turn Left
3) In a very short distance turn Right onto High Bridge Road
4) Stay on High Bridge Road for approx 3.2 miles (it will merge with Volunteer Road)
5) Turn Right onto Brims Grove Road
6) Stay on 8rims Grove Road for approx 1 mile
7) Turn Right onto Oscar Frye Road
8) After approx .4 miles bear/turn Right onto Flat Rock Road
9) Stay on Flat Rock Road for 3.4 miles
10) Turn Left onto Colonel Jack Martin Road and the Rock House will be on your right shortly
Whew!! Did ya get all that??!!??
Angel71242
Michael818
Hello! Thanks for the interest and responses to my Lydia posting. Just to let everyone know, the Lydia Jane McCarthy who died 12-31-1923 (Haunted NC link) is NOT our Lydia of the Underpass. This woman's death certificate, according to the HP library's NC Room, shows clearly that she was NOT born in 1904, as she was 76 when she died. Also, records of the time do not say things like' as a result of injuries sustained in a motoring or automobile accident. They actually describe the injuries, or cause of death.
I have been hearing hints of a "Dalton House" that once stood near King. Anyone know anything about that? Know anything about the Rock House? Any other Stokes, Forsyth, Surry, or Yadkin tales?
Thanks! The second book is in final work before going to the publisher, and the third, encompassing the whole South, is now under way.
Regards!
Michael818
08/21/07 at 04;20 PM
ecalhoun
Quote:
Captain John Martin's rock house in Stokes County was built about 1785 I was there back last May took pics
and each pic there was a fog like matter next to each door entrance there was no fog that day the same
film i took other pics at other places that day no fog like spot in them just at rock house anybody think i
might have ghost pics or just bad film.
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Michael - Here was a mention of the rock house from back in January. It is quite the architectural oddity in the area, and I'm sure it does have some tales floating around about it.
I'd love to hear more about Capt. Martin and why he built such a house, I haven't heard. I know at least a bit of it is covered in one of Chad Tucker's books on Stokes County.
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ecalhoun
08/21/07 at 04:33 PM
Angel71242
I've read about this place, but have not visited it yet. I know one thing - for me - it was very hard to find directions. I finally had to email the King Chamber of Commerce and they emailed the way. I can't wait to go check it out!
Angel71242
08/21/07 at 05:33 PM
sissy
Your new books sound really interesting Michael, good luck with them.
sissy
08/25/07 at 03:46 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael818
I have been hearing hints of a "Dalton House" that once stood near King.
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The Dalton Hunt house is in Yadkin County!
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03/25/07 at 04:07 PM
LuvMyDog
Hi HillBilly Ghosthunter......You said the Dalton Houses were in Yadkin County...where exactly, and what if! may ask happened at these houses. I have been trying to find this out for awhile now. And I heard that the houses were in King? Thanks for any info in advance!
LuvMyDog
08/25/07 at 06:34 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvMyDog
Hi HillBilly Ghosthunter......You said the Dalton Houses were in Yadkin County...where exactly, and what if I may ask happened at these houses. I have been trying to find this out for awhile now. And I heard that the houses were in King? Thanks for any info in advance!
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It is called the DALTON_HUNT house. I is still standing but the property owner will not let anyone near it with a ten foot pole. It is located in Huntsville NC.
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08/25/07 at 06:37 PM
Maria
So is this house in Yadkinville, King, or Huntsville? Where exactly is Huntsville? Is it in Yadkin County?
Maria
D 08/25/07 at 07:07 PM
Maria
I looked it up myself. It's in Yadkin County.
Huntsville is a small unincorporated community in eastern Yadkin County. North Carolina. USA. The community was formerly chartered in 1792 by Charles Hunt of Salisbury. NC and was chartered again in 1822 (Powell 1968. p. 241). I was unable to find any mention of the Dalton_Hunt house.
Maria
08/25/07 at 08:13 PM
LuvMyDog
THANKS MARIA FOR THE INFO.......THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS INFO ON THE HUNT-DALTON HOUSE AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE? YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD DETECTIVE YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO FIND ALL THE PIECES TO THE PUZZLE. THANKS!...........
LuvMyDog
08/25/07 at 08:49 PM
Maria
I didn't find the Dalton_Hunt house. Just Huntsville. There was no mention of the house anywhere on the website. I found no mention of it anywhere I looked. But thank you for the compliment Michelle.
Maria
0 08/25/07 at 09:59 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria
I didn't find the Dalton_Hunt house. Just Huntsville. There was no mention of the house anywhere on the website. I found no mention of it anywhere I looked.
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You won't find the story on the net. It is not a well know as most other places ( but it should be)! My Dad's family is from Yadkin County.
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108/25/07 at 10:22 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvMyDog
THANKS MARIA FOR THE INFO.......THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS INFO ON THE HUNT-DALTON HOUSE AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE? YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD DETECTIVE YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO FIND ALL THE PIECES TO THE PUZZLE. THANKS!...........
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I will fill you all in....here is some history of the place.
The house was built in 1840 by Henry J Gorman. He built it on the land which was owned by his Mother In Law. She was Sarah Dalton. Henry and his wife Julia had a son named Paul who died in 1854 when he was 4 years old. Henry died shortly after. Julia could not cope and committed suicide by jumping from the 2nd floor balcony. Mrs Dalton ( Sarah) moved to Texas stating she could not live in a house that was so haunted.
There is more a man named Hunt bought the house in 1880. He was a DRI think. He was married to a lady named Molly they had a daughter named Daisy. Mr. hunt died when she was 14 and her Mom became too over protective of her. She was very beautiful. Her mother killed Daisy's lover whom she was going to run away with...there on the ground of the Dalton Hunt house. Little did Molly know but Daisy was pregnant. Molly never faced charges for murdering Daisy's lover.
Daisy had a Son his name was Jack. He had some sort of birth defect that caused him to have scaly looking skin like a fish.He was born with no oil glands. His Mother and his Grandmother locked him in the basement for many many years because he was so gruesome looking. His mother Daisy died in 1934 and his grandmother died in 1935.
Jack grew up to be a very mean man. He was accused of killing several people but it was never proven. If there is any place that is haunted this place would be good bet.
I visited this place when I was 18 years old. You could see lights floating around in the house there have been no electricity in it for years. It is very scary looking even on the day time.They say you can see a woman standing in the upstairs window...and hear howls and yells from the basement.
My brother-in-law on a dare went in and unscrewed the light bulbs in the place when he was a teenager just to make sure there was no chance of the lights coming on. They waited in their car to see if the lights would come on as they often did. He said he and his buddy were in his car and it was pitch dark...he said something started at the rear of the car and scratched like some one digging a key in to the paint they were setting still the whole time. He said they could not see nothing. They got out of there as fast as they could go. He said when they stopped there was in fact a scratch from front to rear all the way to the paint.
08/25/07 at 10:56 PM
epdj
Different stories have been told about this house
During the Revolutionary War period (1775-1783) the situation in the area that was to be Stokes County presented three distinct problems: first the British, second the Indians who had been encouraged by the British to step up their actions against the settlers, and lastly were the Tories (British Loyalists).
Squads of local militia under the command of Joseph Winston, Jack Martin, and Matthew Moore were responsible for keeping the Tories, Indians and British from this region. Visitors can visit the ruins of Revolutionary War hero Colonel Jack Martin's 3-story home, The Rock House. The site once served as mustering ground for local militias in the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.
The Stokes County region was fortunate to be left unscarred by actual battle during the Revolutionary War.
The Revolutionary War-era rock house, built by Captain John Martin, is owned by The Stokes County Historical Society. It is one of the oldest structures still standing in Stokes County. The foundation was laid in the 1770's and the house was finished in 1785. It is listed in the National Register of Historic Places.
Esther Johnson
epdj
08/26/07 at 12:08 AM
Maria
My ancestors on my Mother's side pretty much settled Yadkin County. My first ancestor to settle there was Martin Hauser who came to America aboard the ship "The Molly" in 1740. At one time there were so many of my people there that it was called Hauser Town. My great great grandfather Theophilus Christian Hauser built the first general store in Yadkinville. Another great great grandfather John Mackie built the first two story house there. My Hadley and Moffitt ancestors lived in Deep Creek. I still have some Hauser relatives living there. You would think they would know about that story but they said they had never heard it. You would think with that many murders in such a small community that at least one of those people would have been caught, tried, and convicted. I would not have wanted to live in that community with two crazed murderers running loose.
Maria
08/26/07 at 03:17 PM
Michael818
Just to clarify for EVERYONE. I was asking about a house called the Dalton House which once stood on Dalton Road in Stokes County, near King. This house is now gone.
Several people seemed to think I was talking about the Dalton-Hunt House in the Courtney-Huntsville area of Yadkin County. I know all about this house, and have dozens of pictures of it. The legends surrounding this antebellum house appear in my book ROADSIDE REVEWNANTS. My dad grew up in Lone Hickory, which is in the Courtney School District. Our family is intertwined with other families in the area, and my dad knew Jack Hunt, aka "Fishman."
I appreciate everyone who provided info on the Rock House. And I apologize that there was confusion over the other house. Honestly, I didn't even think about the Hunt House when I posted that. We in Yadkin usually refer to it as the Hunt House, not the Dalton-Hunt House.
Thanks again, everybody!
Michael R.
Michael818
08/26/07 at 03:30 PM
Maria
A great big THANK YOU Michael for clearing that up. I had a feeling that they might be two different houses since you would have known and said if it was Dalton_Hunt rather than just Dalton house as you did but since I didn't know that for certain I didn't say anything.
Maria
08/26/07 at 03:33 PM
hillbillyghosthunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael818
Just to clarify for EVERYONE.! was asking about a house called the Dalton House which once stood on Dalton Road in Stokes County, near King. This house is now gone.
Several people seemed to think I was talking about the Dalton-Hunt House in the Courtney-Huntsville area of Yadkin County. I know all about this house, and have dozens of pictures of it. The legends surrounding this antebellum house appear in my book ROADSIDE REVEWNANTS. My dad grew up in Lone Hickory, which is in the Courtney School District. Our family is intertwined with other families in the area, and my dad knew Jack Hunt, aka "Fishman."
I appreciate everyone who provided info on the Rock House. And I apologize that there was confusion over the other house. Honestly, I didn't even think about the Hunt House when I posted that. We in Yadkin usually refer to it as the Hunt House, not the Dalton-Hunt House. Thanks again, everybody!
End quote:
Sorry Michael I did not mean to confuse every one. Well maybe at least the Dalton-Hunt aka Hunt House history interested someone. I find it fascinating my self. Honestly though I have never heard of the Dalton House you refer to in King. I am sure you will be able to dig up the info on that..you seem to be good at what you do. I am a big fan that is for sure!!!
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08/26/07 at 06:45 PM
sissy
Thanks Michael for clearing all of that up
sissy
08/27/07 at 11:32 AM
Maria
Esther sent Matt these photos she took of the cemetery at Rock House where Captain Martin is buried and Matt forwarded them to me and asked me to post them.
Maria
08/27/07 at 11:39 AM
Maria
Hi Eric,
The last article on this page should answer your question as to why Captain Martin built the Rock House like he did. I found these photos of Captain John Martin's Rock House. And this is what was said about it.
The Revolutionary War era rock house. built by Captain John Martin, is owned by The Stokes County Historical Society. Is one of the oldest structures still standing in Stokes County. The foundation was laid in the 1700's and the house was finished in 1785. It is listed in the National Register of historic Places.
During the Revolutionary War period (1775-1783) the situation in the area that was to be Stokes County presented three distinct problems: first the British, second the Indians who had been encouraged by the British to step up their actions against the settlers, and lastly were the Tories (British Loyalists).
Squads of local militia under the command of Joseph Winston, Jack Martin, and Matthew Moore were responsible for keeping the Tories, Indians and British from this region. Visitors can visit the ruins of Revolutionary War hero Colonel Jack Martin's 3-story home. The Rock House. The site once served as mustering ground for local militias in the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.
The Rock House
It's called the Rock House, and even in ruins, the thing is impressive. It sits on a promontory, just above South Double Creek, which provides a good panoramic view of anyone who might be approaching; not a bad vantage point on the Stokes County frontier of the 1770's.
The walls are three feet thick, built of dry-laid native stone and rise some 25 feet or so. When the roof was still existent, it probably exceeded 30 feet in height and, since the exterior was white stucco, it shone like a beacon in the sun, visible for miles. For the scattered settlers in the area, in those days, that beacon meant safety and many times these walls sheltered them when there was trouble afoot, which, more often than not, there was.
From 1775, when the first shots were fired at the beginning of the American Revolution, until the last British troops left our soil in 1783, life on the frontier was a precarious day-to-day thing. Between the British- incited Cherokee, Americans loyal to the British Crown (aka Tories), Redcoats, and those who were self-serving and loyal to no one but themselves who, like vultures, always seem to appear to reap advantage when there was turmoil in the land, a man who had no place to shelter himself and his family was both foolish and short-lived. The Rock House filled the bill, estimably, and the fact that so much of it still stands after 230 years is a testament both to the times and to the man who built it.
His name was John Martin; in later years known as Jack, probably to distinguish himself from another John Martin who lived in the area at the time. We know he was born in Virginia in 1756 and came to that part of Rowan County (later to become Stokes) in 1758, probably in the company of his older brother, William.
Tradition says that Martin laid the foundation stones for the Rock House in 1770, when he was just 14. He may have, but more than likely it was done somewhat later, or he had help unknown to us, as written records from those days are sparse. Men and women making history don't have much time to write it.
Martin must have had money to buy the land and pay for teams of oxen and men to haul the rock, dig the basement and lay the stone, and it must have been done quickly because it was already being mentioned as a refuge from marauding Indians and Tories in 1776, even though it was apparently unfinished.
Martin, by this time a Lieutenant in the Colonial Militia, went to war against the Cherokee in the western mountains. His name crops up again and again in the years from 1776 until hostilities ceased in 1783 in the company of such men as Major Joseph Winston, Col. William Cleveland and Capt. Joseph Cloud. Martin was with Cloud's Company as a scout at the Battle of Kings Mountain when Cloud was shot off his horse and left for dead.
Martin's unfinished Rock House played its own part in the ongoing struggle for independence, as it was used as a muster ground and meeting place as well as a refuge. The old walls must have heard many a strategy session as these frontier patriots worked out tactics and plans.
Martin was at his house when the call went out from Major Winston in Germanton for men to go after a band of Tories who had broken into a patriot's house, ransacked and robbed the place and fled to their hideout in a cave on the north flank of Hanging Rock Mountain. In the ensuing firefight, all the Tories, except two were killed, and as these two approached the patriot company, one took aim at Martin and fired. But, Martin reared his horse, which took the fatal shot. As the man turned to flee, Martin fired from his position where he had fallen on the ground, killing the man. That cave, forever after know as Tories Den, is now a popular destination for hikers in Hanging Rock State Park.
With the long war finally over, Martin came back to his Rock House and finally finished it, just in time to marry the sister of one of his comrades in arms during the war years. Martin was 28 in June of 1784 when he married 22-year-old Nancy Shipp, and for the next 39 years, they lived and raised 10 children in its sheltering walls.
Martin went on to become a Stokes County magistrate and Stokes County representative in the fledgling legislature. He kept buying land and adding to his holdings, at one time owning as much as 6,000 acres, some 600 acres of which lay in the old Cherokee territory in Jackson County.
There is a tantalizing entry in the Moravian diary of one Brother Martin Schneider, where he notes in January of 1784 that he came across a Col. Jack Martin coming out of a Cherokee hot house. Schneider, who was in the Cherokee Overhill Towns to bring Christianity to the Indians, notes that Martin took him under his wing as a guide to one of the principle chiefs and wrote that Martin seemed well acquainted with the ways of the Indians.
As the years progressed, the Rock House and the Martins became known for hospitality and wealth. One writer noted that Nancy had "the finest set of china in the South," and that their furniture was built of premium woods and the best craftsmanship to be seen anywhere. Martin was apparently a man of unusual depth and education for the time. An inventory of his goods after his death noted more than 80 books, some written in Latin and Greek, ranging from law to drama and natural history.
On April 5, 1823, Martin was helping his men in fighting a grass or brush fire that became out of control near the house. Nancy came out and saw him sitting on a rock "to rest," he said. She went on to locate the other men to see if there was anything she could do, and when she came back, Martin was lying beside the rock. He was 67 years old. They buried Martin in a small graveyard near the house and Nancy was laid beside him in 1844. One of their sons, William, lies with them. Curiously, his gravestone lists his death year as 1822.
Over the years, the house had a succession of owners, each less and less committed to its upkeep. At some point in the early-l900s, the wooden portion of the house—roof interior beams, walls and the like— was lost to fire or, as another tradition says, to a man who wanted the wood for his own construction project. The massive walls stood on although one of them clearly shows the split where it was hit by lightning.
Maria
08/27/07 at 01:07 PM
Angel72142
That's freakin awesome Maria!! I scoured the internet for info on the Rock House and could find almost nothing and look at all this you found! The pics too!! I'm gonna say it again - you should be a private detective!
Angel71242
08/27/07 at 01:09 PM
Maria
Thanks Angel. It really wasn't hard!!!
Maria
08/27/07 at 04:09 PM
BobbyWayne
below the rock house is the coolest place but on private land but can be seen from the road.lots of big rocks small water falls and I heard that the KKK used to have meetings there.this is hearsay do not know this for a fact, uncle Oakley was the one that told me about the KKK ,we still went on the property and took pictures a couple of years ago,no houses are near it they had a sign up if I can find them will post pictures of the falls
BobbyWayne
08/27/07 at 04:19 PM
Maria
That's really interesting about the kKK meeting at the water falls. Such a pretty place for such evil hearts to congregate. It reminds me of this photo I took last year of the road that leads to where Charlie Lawson's house once stood and it amazed me how pretty and peaceful the road to where they lived is compared to the horrible evil that took place there all those years ago. Of course this road didn't look like this back then and Charlie Lawson's house is no longer there but it still leads to the same place and is in close proximity to where so much horror occurred. I took this photo on the Squire Inn property where the front of Squire Inn's B&B faces this road. Squires Inn was where Ruby Savage lived with her parents when her best friend Marie was killed. It was called the Wagoner House back then.
Maria
08/27/07 at 05:31 PM
LD
Once again, Maria, you've got answers to questions I haven't thought of yet. I wonder how I could get directions to this house. Love the pics.
LD
08/27/07 at 05:33 PM
Maria
Angel has the directions I think. I'll call her tomorrow and get them for you if no one else posts them before that.
Maria
08/27/07 at 05:44 PM
Maria
Bobby Wayne took these photos of the beautiful water falls near the Rock House and asked me to post them. You look really good in these photos Bobby.
Maria
08/27/07 at 07:43 PM
BobbyWayne
Thanks Marie
But I look Good all the time HaHaHa just kidding
Thanks for posting the pictures for me
Charlie's House was closer to Hampton Road than Squires Inn
Arthur's House may have been dose to Squires Inn, I never Knew where he lived
BobbyWayne
08/27/07 at 09:00 PM
Maria
Sadie Hampton, Hillary Hampton's wife lives in the house Arthur built. They added onto it, a kitchen I think. Sadie is 98 years old. She and Hillary were Charlie and Fannie's best friends. And yes, you always look good Bobby. For real.
Maria
08/28/07 at 08:24 AM
sissy
Bobby Wayne good to hear from you. I love those pictures, they are really pretty.
sissy
08/28/07 at 08:45 AM
Angel71242
Those pictures are really beautiful! I love nature - it can be so breathtaking sometimes!
Angel71242
08/28/07 at 12:30 PM
Angel71242
Directions to Rock House (from Stokes County Economic Development)
From Winston-Salem
1) 52 North to Exit 129 (Pinnacle) - at end of ramp turn Right
2) Continue to intersection with Old US Highway 52 and turn Left
3) In a very short distance turn Right onto High Bridge Road
4) Stay on High Bridge Road for approx 3.2 miles (it will merge with Volunteer Road)
5) Turn Right onto Brims Grove Road
6) Stay on 8rims Grove Road for approx 1 mile
7) Turn Right onto Oscar Frye Road
8) After approx .4 miles bear/turn Right onto Flat Rock Road
9) Stay on Flat Rock Road for 3.4 miles
10) Turn Left onto Colonel Jack Martin Road and the Rock House will be on your right shortly
Whew!! Did ya get all that??!!??
Angel71242
